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I am pleased to say that we are making progress with the plan for Moot to be a church plant into a church in the central London Stepney area of the Diocese of London. As part of the process we have invited the Archdeacon of Hackney to meet Moot to enable him to understand the community. Two meetings are planned:
1st Meeting
Venue: St Matthews Church Clergy House Dining Room & Drawing Room, entrance from St Anns Street door (buzzer for House) map here
Time: From 7.30pm Weds 30th April 2008
Subject: Moot Community meet the Archdeacon of Hackney in Westminster
2nd Meeting
Venue: St Andrew's Church, Holborn Viaduct, 5 St. Andrew Street, EC4A 3AB, map here
Time: from 6.45pm 14th May 2008
Subject: Moot Community meet the Archdeacon of Hackney & experimental service in the City
The report is down below for download.
Clarification questions
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Views
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1. Peters thoughts
Since I'll miss the November Community meeting (sorry, but I have to be in Sarajevo), I thought I'd add my thoughts here instead.
I strongly believe that moot needs to hold the three themes of mission, worship and community in balance. I therefore believe that we need to find a place that allows that. St. Matthews isa glorious place, and we've benefited greatly from being here. However, it has limitations, and in particular it's in the most expensive place on the planet. I don't believe that we can afford to do the kind of things we imagine for moot while we remain in Westminster.
For me it would be a real nuisance to move, because my work is just round the corner from StMW. However, I'm not constrained by that - a bicycle is a wonderful thing - so I'm content with any location that's within a 40-minute bike ride of Victoria. I am excited by the idea of moot moving to a part of London which is less comfortable and monied than Westminster, as it chimes with a thought that I had over the summer (and which I resist ... ). Ideally I'd like somewhere in South-West London because I live there. However, that's a different diocese, and I should not want us to abandon the Diocese of London. So I look to a plant from StMW to a venue in the Diocese of London (hence North of the river) that would allow us to develop our ideas for an inclusive dispersed community serviced by an intentional resident community. I fear the effect of "core" - that those who live in an intentional community will become separate from those who don't - but I think we can manage that risk. I am especially keen that in this phase of reflection and discernment we hear all the voices in moot; those who come less often to services because of location or child-care are important and we need to make sure that we don't unintentionally push them from the "occasional because of constraints" into the "sadly not, because of impossibility" state. So I hope the wiki and the blog, and texts and e-mails, and phonecalls and chats, will allow us all to get all the voices into the conversation. All in all, I think this could be a really exciting time for moot. We've turned a corner and this is a new street to walk down. Somewhere along it is our new home for a while. We have friends around town, including some who'll be staying at the old home. We have friends further afield who'll keep us challenged to be inclusive in new ways. And we're finding a new home somewhere along this new street, where we can live an new kind of open-door life as a community. If the garden has a few weeds and the house needs some work doing, that's fine as long as we can be warm and welcoming to those who need us - including ourselves. Prosaically, then, I'm for an explicit endorsement of a search along the lines of Option 3 of the "Discerning Moot's Future" paper. We can do more work on this, including the questions of where and what sort of place, during the weekend away.
See you then. Peter
2. Mike's Thought.
My thoughts are very simple. Option 3 is clearly the best. I don't really have much more to say in addition to that, as I think the paper that has been circulated is clear enough. There may be some difficulty with location, but I'm sure we can deal with that as we get to it. All problems can be resolved if there is the will to do so. Doubtless, the group will change in the move, but I think that will be for the better.
If you are a member of the Moot Community, and do not have access yet to this wiki - do subscribe using the link on the right tool bar - and one of us will sort out permissions for you to add your content.
1st Meeting
Venue: St Matthews Church Clergy House Dining Room & Drawing Room, entrance from St Anns Street door (buzzer for House) map here
Time: From 7.30pm Weds 30th April 2008
Subject: Moot Community meet the Archdeacon of Hackney in Westminster
| Coming & Dietry needs | Not Coming |
| 1. Ian Mobsby 2. Simeon Barnes 3. Tim Dendy 4. Clare Catford 5. Steve Edwards 6. Thomasin Hale 7. Aaron Kennedy 8. Dorethe Rosenow 9. Richard Trouncer 10. Sarah Williams 11. Andy Schofield 12. Peter Rundell 13. Graham Richards 14. Raewyn Thomas 15. Peter Thomas 16. Mike Radcliffe 17. Lyle Dennon 18. Peter Johnston 19. James Fraser 20. Catherine Cunningham 21. Edward Barlow No Fish No Dairy No Nuts | Fiona Barnes Linda Davies Sam Rowland Jonny Spoor Trine Lashley David Harris |
2nd Meeting
Venue: St Andrew's Church, Holborn Viaduct, 5 St. Andrew Street, EC4A 3AB, map here
Time: from 6.45pm 14th May 2008
Subject: Moot Community meet the Archdeacon of Hackney & experimental service in the City
| Coming & Dietry needs | Not Coming |
| Ian Mobsby David Harris |
The report is down below for download.
Clarification questions
add any questions here
Suggested changes
add your suggestions here
Views
add your views here
1. Peters thoughts
Since I'll miss the November Community meeting (sorry, but I have to be in Sarajevo), I thought I'd add my thoughts here instead.
I strongly believe that moot needs to hold the three themes of mission, worship and community in balance. I therefore believe that we need to find a place that allows that. St. Matthews isa glorious place, and we've benefited greatly from being here. However, it has limitations, and in particular it's in the most expensive place on the planet. I don't believe that we can afford to do the kind of things we imagine for moot while we remain in Westminster.
For me it would be a real nuisance to move, because my work is just round the corner from StMW. However, I'm not constrained by that - a bicycle is a wonderful thing - so I'm content with any location that's within a 40-minute bike ride of Victoria. I am excited by the idea of moot moving to a part of London which is less comfortable and monied than Westminster, as it chimes with a thought that I had over the summer (and which I resist ... ). Ideally I'd like somewhere in South-West London because I live there. However, that's a different diocese, and I should not want us to abandon the Diocese of London. So I look to a plant from StMW to a venue in the Diocese of London (hence North of the river) that would allow us to develop our ideas for an inclusive dispersed community serviced by an intentional resident community. I fear the effect of "core" - that those who live in an intentional community will become separate from those who don't - but I think we can manage that risk. I am especially keen that in this phase of reflection and discernment we hear all the voices in moot; those who come less often to services because of location or child-care are important and we need to make sure that we don't unintentionally push them from the "occasional because of constraints" into the "sadly not, because of impossibility" state. So I hope the wiki and the blog, and texts and e-mails, and phonecalls and chats, will allow us all to get all the voices into the conversation. All in all, I think this could be a really exciting time for moot. We've turned a corner and this is a new street to walk down. Somewhere along it is our new home for a while. We have friends around town, including some who'll be staying at the old home. We have friends further afield who'll keep us challenged to be inclusive in new ways. And we're finding a new home somewhere along this new street, where we can live an new kind of open-door life as a community. If the garden has a few weeds and the house needs some work doing, that's fine as long as we can be warm and welcoming to those who need us - including ourselves. Prosaically, then, I'm for an explicit endorsement of a search along the lines of Option 3 of the "Discerning Moot's Future" paper. We can do more work on this, including the questions of where and what sort of place, during the weekend away.
See you then. Peter
2. Mike's Thought.
My thoughts are very simple. Option 3 is clearly the best. I don't really have much more to say in addition to that, as I think the paper that has been circulated is clear enough. There may be some difficulty with location, but I'm sure we can deal with that as we get to it. All problems can be resolved if there is the will to do so. Doubtless, the group will change in the move, but I think that will be for the better.
If you are a member of the Moot Community, and do not have access yet to this wiki - do subscribe using the link on the right tool bar - and one of us will sort out permissions for you to add your content.
